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From  Serkaddis Motbaynor 

Sent       Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:02 am

Subject   CAN WE TALK? Comments on contributions.

 CAN WE TALK? 

I would like to borrow this phrase from the Comedienne Joan Rivers, not because I think the subject at hand is a joke but because she uses it before discussing freely and frankly with the guests of her talk show. I am hoping that this and all other contributions here lead to further dialogue and not a series of papers with no interaction between its authors. Belay, thanks for sharing the very valuable comprehensive summary of post 1991 Land Policy and Administration.

Breaking the Land Policy Impasse Daniel

Land and the challenge of feeding the Ethiopian people Siegfried  Pausewang

Disowning the idea of privatizing land ownership Bulcha Demeksa

My personal reflections Abu Moges

Yes, we can talk Belay

Let’s focus on the central issue Bulcha Demeksa

Yes, we can talk Mulat

Can We Talk2 :  To Mulat Serkaddis Motbaynor

Can We Talk: To Contributors Serkaddis Motbaynor

Weha Mewket Endayhon Mulat Demeke

Contribution from Indian Rob

Rural Land Policy and Administration in Ethiopia: Recent Patterns and Problems Belay

Balageru Part Two Serkaddis Motbaynor

Balageru  Serkaddis Motbaynor

PRIVATIZE OR PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF LAND ? TD

Commentary on Development TD

Suggestions  Sisay Assefa

I agree very much with your views that the farmers know how to decide what to do. If only they could be given that right and freedom to make decisions. If only we did not have to wait for government to, as you say, ‘allow’. When will the farmer realize that it is h/she that ‘allows’ government to exist and not the other way around? While that is a purely rhetorical question Mr. Belay I would be glad for your views on how and who you see bringing about the improvement or change  in the constitution article 40 (3) that you recommended.  Is there any political party in the current election process that has promised to make this change or any other changes that you think are required? I personally believe that the only requirement for converting the current land use rights in to ownership rights   and improving change the constitution article 40(3) is regime change. 

Mr Rob from India, very nice to see you here and hope you won’t be stranger. India leads the South -South dialogue and we have a lot to learn from each other. It is the education, experience and inspiration of India that gave birth to the Grameen Bank Model in Bangladesh and I hope you can share with us HOW India has managed to develop implement and sustain its peaceful participatory development model in more detail. What is the history of this concept in India and how was it introduced to the Rural people or was the movement spontaneous actually starting from the grassroots and suddenly dawning on the civil servants and leaders? I am asking because you have said the ONUS is on the educated people and I agree but perhaps for the sake of the debate we can discuss India’s experience in building a successful relationship between the educated people and those they seek to help. I have Indian friends who are very educated and am struck by their HUMILITY. They have invisible egos and I feel that THEY FEEL they are only channels of change and not change AGENT themselves. Perhaps you can send us an Attitude Adjustment handbook for some of our own very learned ‘change agents’ who present their own egos and identities together with the very valuable knowledge. The process of communication is therefore changed from sharing information to one of DONOR and Receiver. When you say, ONUS LIES ON EDUCATED people I think it should be humble educated people. Of all the educated people I think those trained in participatory IT and Telecommunications, if there is such a field, people in the mass media and entertainment industry who can be trained to have a rural approach and communication policy planners have the most urgent and important work to do with regards to ‘spreading feasible outcomes from discussions on development.’   

The other many issues you raised were also vital for our discussions. In poor countries like ours the problems, like obsolete pesticides, GM foods, terminator seeds, impact of food aid on our seeds and agriculture, are many and complex. For instance you pointed out the need to get rid of middle men and commissioning agents but in our country these parasites are either related to powerful people or even the politician himself!!  Instead we should try and focus on the positive and I hope you will share with us the strategies for the victories of educated Indians at the grass roots level as well as the international level like the patent rights to the Neem Tree. I hope Rob, you have read Mulat’s piece as closely as me, especially the part that said ‘We have not succeeded in bringing about a system that encourages the farmer and his family to take action.’   India HAS had resounding success in this.  And although I believe that success is based on a prerequisite success of having a peaceful and democratic government I hope nevertheless you share with us best practices from India on how your development efforts became participatory so we can debate the pros and cons of possible participation models for Ethiopia and learn.  We must make an effort to network and learn from friends like Rob and neighbours, however hostile they may be. For example here is an experience from right next door: http://www.somalilandsurveys.info/ 

All three contributions have raised the issue of empowerment and the need for participation of farmers in the development dialogue. But none more so clearly than Mulat Demeke’s very brilliant and engaging ‘Weha Mewkat Endayhon.’ This piece so captured my attention I wished for a chat room at FSS Forum for the purposes of instant discussion. I foresee a live online debate at FSS very soon and nominate Mulat to the panel without reservation! In the meantime, in the hopes of a reply and some dialogue I would like to ask Mulat his views on some points he raised and share with his my own in a separate posting for Mulat.  

On the subject of environmental degradation an issue, in my view, even more important than the issue of land reform I want to share three experiences from Konso and Wello. The first related to a ‘trip’ I was taken to near Konso town, called NEW YORK. Everyone there knows it as New York and I am sad to tell you it has become a Tourist Attraction!! New York is dramatic result of erosion where gulleys have formed in denuded land and sand stone leaving towering blocks of naked earth and sandstone which from a distance and in a certain looks like sky scrapers and high rise apartment buildings. In this the new millennia, this is our New York!  http://re2.mm-c.yimg.com/image/425906912   In Wello it was even worse where all the mountains are completely denuded of trees and, in that hard Kremt rain, literally melting. Driving through Wello in Kremt is like driving through a HUGE BOWL OF SCOOPS OF SOFT MELTING CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM. Very depressing. On a more positive note I also saw the farming techniques of the Konso farmers and learned how, from small plots of land they were able to grow many different things at the same time and in different seasons. Also, they have fantastic terracing techniques in Konso.  

It made me wonder why we did not have WORKSHOPS AND CONFERENCES FOR FARMERS so that perdiems were paid to farmers from all over Ethiopia to meet farmers from Konso and learn from their techniques. The UN saw fit, recently, to hold the world’s first pastoralist conference in Ethiopia, http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=45233&SelectRegion=Global

 Don’t we need a national conference of Ethiopia Farmers and Pastoralist first??  Thanks to all for the pleasure of reading the contributions and, again to FSS. 

 

From -serkaddis motbaynor

Sent -Friday, April 1, 2005 2:43 pm

Subject -SENGA? Leminnay? Balageru Part Two. 

SENGA? LEMINNAY?

While I wholly advocate the participation of all Ethiopian members of the public in the formulation of land and agricultural/pastoral policy, ultimately I agree with OXFAMS recommendation that its implementation should be overseen by an INDEPENDENT National Land Commission. This NEUTRAL non partisan professional body should, I think, be established to co-ordinate and manage the process of land reform in Ethiopia. 

Only such a body  could  be is responsible for taking the policy debate to the general public, ensuring their participation and making sure that the public’s understanding of the issues and their  feedback is used to fine- tune , formulate, determine or scrap  government policies.

Breaking the Land Policy Impasse Daniel

Land and the challenge of feeding the Ethiopian people Siegfried  Pausewang

Disowning the idea of privatizing land ownership Bulcha Demeksa

My personal reflections Abu Moges

Yes, we can talk Belay

Let’s focus on the central issue Bulcha Demeksa

Yes, we can talk Mulat

Can We Talk2 :  To Mulat Serkaddis Motbaynor

Can We Talk: To Contributors Serkaddis Motbaynor

Weha Mewket Endayhon Mulat Demeke

Contribution from Indian Rob

Rural Land Policy and Administration in Ethiopia: Recent Patterns and Problems Belay

Balageru Part Two Serkaddis Motbaynor

Balageru  Serkaddis Motbaynor

PRIVATIZE OR PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF LAND ? TD

Commentary on Development TD

Suggestions  Sisay Assefa

I disagree with the suggestion made that this forum should be used in any part of this process. I don’t believe it’s the place. It is also not, I don’t think, the purpose of this free unfettered unstructured discussion area. The very suggestion that opinions posted in this forum would be used by government to cull or test ideas or policies is mortifying. It would be sad if this forum, the first of its kind, would be used, as suggested, as a planning tool by government bureaucrats and I hope this birkiyay medrek is kept forever free from the attentions of any enthusiastic government cadres doing focus group research, gauging opinion or towing the party propaganda line and spewing it into the forum. I say this with the greatest respect to Dr. Sisay Aseffa who I support in his efforts to gain something tangible and fruitful from our discussion, a productive outcome and conclusion to our discussions and the opinions to be used in some constructive way.  I just believe, and please correct me if I am wrong, that the point of the FSS forum is simply to have the discussion itself.  I also believe that the more free informal and flexible the forum, the more unstructured the format of discussions, the more people will not hesitate to participate. Otherwise I will have to think very hard before i post like preparing for a symposium and people will feel shy and not participate because the whole thing will look too formal and serious. Am I wrong?  if so 1,000 apologies. 

Back to the subject at hand. Personally I do not see how, having opened the Pandora's Box of ethnic polarization, and having decentralized government and deleted zonal authority until it has disappeared into the thin air of empty wereda administrative offices, how pilot "land certificate" projects can be successfully implemented monitored and evaluated.  In addition,  the whole point of a pilot is to serve as a model for replication but the model of land certificates in Tigray, with its ‘requiq meret’, is nothing like the model in Amhara region which  is likewise nothing like the pilot land certification programme now underway in Oromia. Overall a futile, ill planned un-coordinated exercise. "IKA IKA "chewata, just like the unfolding Resettlement debacle and as usual the Balageru are the butt of the joke. 

Unaccompanied by clearly promulgated federal law, this "land reform" initiative is nothing but  a patchwork/pot pourrie, a "secondo misto" of misguided measures at woreda level, cosmetic and completely disjointed from any  national federal level policy recommendations that may or may not have existed in the first place. In fact I suspect the whole idea of land certificates was brought about by donor pressure and did not originate in Deddebit or after deep discussions in the dark dank drawing rooms of Meneliks Old Palace.  In now way does the reality on the ground reflect the theoretical plans and visions by  academics and qualified policy makers who are forced to work within (or around) the suicidal Iskemegenttel Diress framework, inside ethnically divided regions and decentralized system of government and under a government, EPRDF, who is, 15 years on, STILL EXPERIMENTING ON Ethiopia. (IDYA!)

Ere Lemehonoo... I wonder, what guarantee is a certificate for a plot of land in a region that could, at any moment, secede and become a country with its own government? What happens then?

There is a strong but silent view at the international level that land and land holding is NOT the main issue that should underpin Ethiopia's development plans. These critics are mumbling under their breath that the issue of land tenure it is a red herring at best and at worst a marxist maoist fetish or capitalist carpet-baggers ploy.   They point to historical precedents and note that it was education and employment that liberated the former slaves in America's deep South and not 40 acres and a mule!!  Development, these critics add, rests on a viable national economic strategy, developed by a nationalistic government, interested in nation building and rehabilitating a NATIONAL economy ( as opposed to holding "killil competitions" and "biher bihereseb boxing matches" with the winner getting all or most of the scarce resources.)

 I am not an economist but I have read many strategies developed by nationalistic ‘hager-bekel’ experts. Among them, published in the Ethiopian Journal of Development Research, Vol 13, No. 2 October 1991 is Dr. Ayele Tirfie's "Resource-Based Development: A Strategy for Ethiopia and for Others in Similar Conditions. It is a short but precise and SCIENTIFIC clear paper  written long before the time that Addis Ababa University went through ethnic-cleansing  dismissal of Amhara teachers, when Dr. Ayele was Associate Professor, Department of Management and Public Administration.

The aim put forward by Dr. Ayele's paper is clear: inter-egional economic integration.

So I wonder if anyone can help me understand, What EXACTLY is the aim of farmers getting temporary ownership of their land when there is no overall VIABLE NATIONAL economic strategy? If there is no actual demarcation and title deed then where is the security for the farmer? Ye Hilm Hambasha! 

Our present development strategy is, as I said before, is not based on any science but is an unknown entity, mysteriously shrouded, like a cross legged ttenquay, in the alchemy of ALDI. 

Agricultural Led? Nowhere in this magic formula of Meles's is there specific mention of, or dovetailed approach to addressing the needs of Ethiopian Pastoralists. Before parceling out plots of land willy nilly and indeed in this forum itself, should we not ask ourselves  if Ethiopia has a successful agricultural economy worth rehabilitating or a successful PASTORAL economy worthy of more investment, policy and programme support.  Don't we need to decide whether scarce resources time and expertise should focus first on the farmer or on the Arbito Adaree? Which comes first the chicken or the camel?

It is Ethiopia that puts the horn in the horn of Africa and yet I have yet to see any debate, discussion or policy specifically targeting our resourceful pastoralist and their valuable assets of black headed sheep, tasty goats and resilient camel herds with their nutritious milk,(that has proven to be much more effective in sustaining life during hardship and drought than any DPPC handout)I hope someone can reply so that I can read and learn great things from other participants’ postings on these and other subjects in this new debate.  Once again thanks to FSS for the opportunity.

 

From - TD 

Sent -Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:47 pm

Subject -PRIVATIZE OR PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF LAND ? 

Dear Webmaster, 

With your permission I would to say a few things. I can't think of arguments for privatizing land except these : 

1. If we start from conditions now, the land is owned by the state. If the land is privatized it would be a one time huge resource of income/revenue for the government from selling land. 

2.If land is privatized, the value of the land would increase in monetary terms. From this is implied that any activity done on the land must be profitable to return the initial cost of investments.

Assuming the price of land is higher when privatized than leased, the price of food would increase and hopefully would bring more income for the farmer. 

Breaking the Land Policy Impasse Daniel

Land and the challenge of feeding the Ethiopian people Siegfried  Pausewang

Disowning the idea of privatizing land ownership Bulcha Demeksa

My personal reflections Abu Moges

Yes, we can talk Belay

Let’s focus on the central issue Bulcha Demeksa

Yes, we can talk Mulat

Can We Talk2 :  To Mulat Serkaddis Motbaynor

Can We Talk: To Contributors Serkaddis Motbaynor

Weha Mewket Endayhon Mulat Demeke

Contribution from Indian Rob

Rural Land Policy and Administration in Ethiopia: Recent Patterns and Problems Belay

Balageru Part Two Serkaddis Motbaynor

Balageru  Serkaddis Motbaynor

PRIVATIZE OR PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF LAND ? TD

Commentary on Development TD

Suggestions  Sisay Assefa

3.If the land is given to the present farmers who are using it, and are allowed to sell it, it would help them with an initial sum of money that could help them in resettlement in urban areas until they obtain employment. 

4.Migration of farmers from one place to other regions of Ethiopia would help integration and unity of Ethiopia instead of the present ethnic enclaves where each ethnic group has its own region (only urban areas are diverse ethnically, religiously, etc...). 

5.If land is privatized, individuals could relatively easily own large tracts of land, and this would make commercial farming viable (economies of scale). 

6.If farmers migrate to urban areas, it would shift the burden from the land which is unsustainable due to huge rural population to urban areas. In the process would help the environment? 

7.This migration would create new types of consumption and demand helping the business community. It would also help in shifting the economy from subsistence to that of monetary. 

If land is retained as a public or state owned property as it is at present, it could have the following advantages : 

1.The farmer would stay where he is located now preventing destabilizing conditions, criminal activities, destitution worse than at present. 

2.Would help the farmer's family stay/sustain together rather than dispersing due to several factors. Staying as a basic economic unit albeit subsistence. 

3.Costs less due to the farmer taking care of himself except during famine which seems to be persistent in some places. 

4.Instead of selling the land, if the farmer leases the land to third parties as is now in some places, this would generate at the same time a decent income and employment for the farmer and his family. 

5.If the farmer stays where he is, he/she would take care of the land as its own contrary to present arguments helping the environment. 

6.Would prevent modern constructions being built everywhere preventing environmental degradation. 

In conclusion I support the present form of ownership. Even though there seems many reasons for privatizing land, I am of the opinion that the time is not right for privatization. For one thing, the prices of agricultural produce won't fetch a high price because little demand and low purchasing power of the consumers. 

If farmers migrate to urban areas in large numbers, they wouldn't get employment as the urban economy wouldn't absorb them and this would be a destabilizing factor. 

I am of the opinion that change should be gradual. A shift of population from rural to urban areas slowly as the economy grows and can absorb them and at the same time privatizing land slowly step by step. 

For the time being that's all I have got to say.

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